Is That a Yes or a No?
By Donna Wasson
Because our time
on this earth is
so short, I want
to broach a
subject that has
historically
been a huge
source of
contention in
the body of
Christ. However,
it’s much too
important to
leave on the
shelf. The pros
and cons are
compelling to
say the least
and to be quite
honest, my
little pea brain
just isn’t smart
enough to call
it one way or
the other. So,
I’ll present the
pros and cons of
the ‘Once saved,
always saved’
doctrine, and
give you my
summation. Let’s
start with the
pro view.
Let’s assume
that once a
person accepts
Jesus as their
savior, they
cannot be
‘unsaved,’ so to
speak, no matter
how far off the
diving board
they jump in
their behavior
and lifestyle.
The ONLY source
we need to turn
to is the
ultimate
standard, the
word of God, the
Bible.
There are those
who are
convinced that
once you’re
saved, you’re
forevermore in
God’s hand and
are bound for
heaven. A real,
bona fide
believer is
defined as being
a person who has
faith in Jesus
Christ as their
savior, and is
subsequently
transformed into
a new creature
through the
power and
sealing of the
Holy Spirit.
They are willing
to ‘take up
their cross and
follow Jesus,’
meaning they
make the choice
to die to their
fleshly desires,
so they can live
a righteous a
life before God
with the
Spirit’s help.
The Bible tells
us that the
blood of Jesus
cleanses us from
ALL sin; past,
present and
future. Once a
person has been
redeemed and
made into a new
creature, they
will still sin
on occasion, but
will not
PRACTICE sin.
Those who do are
hypocrites and
were never saved
in the first
place. This
premise of the
person never
being truly
converted is the
basis of the
‘once saved,
always saved’
argument.
According to the
Bible, believers
are:
Children of God.
John 1:12, “Yet
to all who
received Him, to
those who
believed in His
name, He gave
the right to
become children
of God.”
Predestined for
salvation.
Ephesians 1:5,
“Having
predestinated us
unto the
adoption as
children by
Jesus Christ to
Himself,
according to the
good pleasure of
His will…”
Heirs of God.
Romans 8:17,
“Now, if we are
children, then
we are
heirs—heirs of
God and co-heirs
with Christ, if
indeed we share
in His
sufferings in
order that we
may also share
in His glory.”
Called by God.
Romans 8: 29-30,
“For those God
foreknew he also
predestined to
be conformed to
the likeness of
His Son, that He
might be the
first born among
many brothers.
And those He
predestined, he
also
called—those He
called, He also
justified; those
He justified, He
also glorified.”
Sealed by God. 2
Corinthians 1:
21-22, “Now it
is God who makes
both us and you
stand firm in
Christ. He
anointed us, set
His seal of
ownership upon
us, and put His
Spirit in our
hearts as a
deposit,
guaranteeing
what is to
come.”
The fact that we
are ‘sealed’ by
the Holy Spirit
is a major proof
to the OSAS
folks. There are
several verses
that speak of us
being sealed
after our
salvation.
Ephesians 1:
13-14, “In whom
ye also trusted,
after that ye
heard the word
of truth, the
gospel of your
salvation: in
whom also after
that ye
believed, ye
were sealed with
that Holy Spirit
of promise,
which is the
earnest of our
inheritance
until the
redemption of
the purchased
possession, unto
the praise of
His glory.”
According to my
dear friend,
Wayne
Broadstone, this
sealing “is the
irrevocable
supernatural and
sovereign act by
the Holy Spirit
HIMSELF. He
makes NO
MISTAKES.
Therefore, this
“seal” is
permanent
because HE never
has to go back
and unseal a
believer. The
“seal” is the
quintessential
stamp of the
highest power in
authority. You
well know the
power of a
king’s earthly
seal in the
historical past
that was placed
on a document.
It literally was
held in the same
regard as though
the king was
there in
person.”
I looked up the
word “seal” in
the Strong’s
Exhaustive Bible
Concordance
Online. The
Greek word is
“sfragivzw,”(no
kidding!) which
means, “to mark
a person to
confirm or
attest a thing,
to authenticate,
place beyond
doubt, to prove
one’s testimony
to a person that
he is what he
professes to
be.”
Romans 8: 9,
“But ye are not
in the flesh,
but in the
Spirit, if so be
that the Spirit
of God dwell in
you. Now if any
man have not the
Spirit of
Christ, he is
none of his.” In
other words,
once a person
has been sealed
by the Holy
Spirit, they
will not want to
practice sin. IF
a person that
professes to be
saved, yet lives
a sinful
lifestyle, they
were never
really saved and
sealed in the
first place.
Their experience
of salvation was
merely
intellectual
rather than a
true spiritual
regeneration.
The folks in
this camp argue
that we cannot
keep ourselves
saved by works.
Instead, we can
confidently
trust that, by
grace and the
Holy Spirit, we
will retain our
salvation, no
matter what sins
or crimes we
might commit.
The attempt to
bolster Christ’s
grace with human
meritorious
service is a
grave insult to
the cross. If we
could or were
required to
perform good
works, how could
we ever know
we’ve done
enough to past
muster? There
would be no
assurance of
salvation, and
thus no peace.
Not only that,
Jesus states in
John 10:29 says,
“My Father,
which gave them
me, is greater
than all; and no
man is able to
pluck them out
of my Father’s
hand.” Perhaps
no one can pluck
us out of God’s
hand, BUT…are we
able to jump out
of His hand?
After we’re
saved, do we
lose our free
will regarding
following Christ
and living as
righteously as
we can? What if
being ‘good’
gets to be a
drag and we
don’t want to
live life like
that anymore? Do
we lose our
salvation?
1 John 1:9
declares, “If we
confess our
sins, he is
faithful and
just to forgive
us our sins, and
to cleanse us
from all
unrighteousness.”
Is that a
conditional
promise? It says
IF we confess
our sins. What
happens if we
live like a
heathen and
don’t confess
our sins? 1 John
1: 6-7 says, “If
we say that we
have fellowship
with him, and
walk in
darkness, we
lie, and do not
the truth: But
if we walk in
the light, as he
is in the light,
we have
fellowship one
with another,
and the blood of
Jesus Christ his
Son cleanseth us
from all sin.”
IF we walk in
the light, his
blood will
cleanse us from
all sin?
Again, what if
we don’t walk in
the light? We
all still sin
here and there
after salvation,
because we still
have a sinful
nature and must
struggle against
it until we’re
freed by death
or the rapture.
What happens if
a long time,
dedicated
Christian
encounters a
devastating
tragedy that
causes them to
be angry with,
and blame God?
What if they
turn their back
on God from then
on, walk away
from
Christianity and
start living a
very sinful
lifestyle, even
to the point of
discouraging
other people in
their quest to
find God?
Yes, I know,
that’s an
extreme example,
but it does
happen. Not
everyone is as
faithful as Job
was. Would that
person lose
their salvation?
OK, now let’s
look at the flip
side of this
coin, and
consider the
possibility that
one can indeed,
lose their
salvation.
In Romans 8:1,
Paul is
addressing a
group of true
believers when
he said, “There
is therefore now
no condemnation
to those who are
in Christ Jesus,
who do not walk
according to the
flesh, but
according to the
Spirit.” Notice
that pesky word
“but.” That
logically
suggests there
IS condemnation
to those who are
in Christ Jesus,
who DO walk in
the flesh. If it
were impossible
to be in Christ
and walk
according to the
flesh, Paul
would have
simply stated,
‘there is no
condemnation to
those who are in
Jesus, and walk
according to the
Spirit.’
Walk in the
flesh =
condemnation.
Walk in the
Spirit = no
condemnation.
Paul is stating
that living in
Christ requires
we walk in the
Spirit, not just
talk about being
in the Spirit.
After all, talk
is cheap. The
OSAS view states
that if we are
actually able to
lose our genuine
salvation, then
no one can ever
have assurance
that they ARE
saved. They
think the
possibility of
losing your
salvation is the
same premise of
grace plus
works.
All truly
regenerated
Christians
believe the
simple truth of
Ephesians 2:
8-9, “For by
grace are ye
saved through
faith; and that
not of
yourselves. It
is the gift of
God: not of
works, lest any
man should
boast.” You
cannot get much
clearer than
that! So, after
we are saved,
what is our
responsibility
towards Jesus?
Is it possible
we can actually
choose to thumb
our noses at the
grace of Jesus,
and return to a
sinful
lifestyle, yet
retain the gift
of salvation?
Romans 6: 12-16,
“Let not sin
therefore reign
in your mortal
body, that ye
should obey it
in the lusts
thereof. Neither
yield ye your
members as
instruments of
unrighteousness
unto sin: but
yield yourselves
unto God, as
those that are
alive from the
dead, and your
members as
instruments of
righteousness
unto God. For
sin shall not
have dominion
over you: for ye
are not under
the law, but
under grace.
What then? Shall
we sin, because
we are not under
the law, but
under grace? God
forbid. Know ye
not, that to
whom ye yield
yourselves
servants to
obey, his
servants ye are
to whom ye obey;
whether of sin
unto death, or
of obedience
unto
righteousness?”
Paul was
instructing
Christians not
to “let” sin
reign; not to
“yield” our
members as
instruments of
unrighteousness.
He teaches that,
the one we yield
ourselves to and
obey as a
servant, will be
our master, even
sin unto
death…That
implies we have
a choice to
yield to sin
after we’re
saved, and if we
choose to yield
to sin as
servants, it
will lead to
death, and death
is the opposite
of salvation.
Isn’t it??
Let’s look a
passage in
Hebrews 6: 4-6,
“For it is
impossible for
those who were
once
enlightened, and
have tasted of
the heavenly
gift, and were
made partakers
of the Holy
Ghost, and have
tasted the good
word of God, and
the powers of
the world to
come, If they
shall fall away,
to renew them
again unto
repentance;
seeing they
crucify to
themselves the
Son of God
afresh, and put
him to an open
shame.”
Seems pretty
straightforward,
but we’d better
check the Greek
on this to make
sure we really
understand what
the author
meant. Looking
again to
Strong’s
Concordance,
we’ll dissect
these verses.
‘For it is
impossible—(transliterated:
Adunatos, which
means, impotent,
unable to be
done,
powerless.) for
those who were
once
enlightened—(photizo:
to imbue with
saving
knowledge, to
give
understanding
to.) and have
tasted—(geuomai:
experience, to
take
nourishment, to
partake of and
enjoy) of the
heavenly gift
and were made
partakers—(metochos:
a partner,
sharing in) of
the Holy Ghost
and have tasted
the good word of
God, and the
powers of the
world to come,
If they shall
fall
away--(parapipto:
to deviate from
the right path,
turn aside from
the true faith.)
to
renew--(anakainosis:
renovate, change
completely for
the better,)
them again to
repentance
seeing they
crucify to
themselves the
Son of God
afresh, and put
him to an open
shame—(paradeigmatizo:
to expose to
public
disgrace.)’
So, according to
these verses,
once someone has
been genuinely
made a new
creature in
Christ, fully
understanding,
experiencing the
Holy Spirit in
their being and
being made a
partner with
Christ, if they
turn aside from
the true faith,
it is
‘impossible’ to
renovate or
bring them back
to a state of
grace because
there is no
other sacrifice
for their sins.
Jesus was the
ultimate
sacrifice, and
if they turn
away from His
blood, the only
remedy would be
to crucify
Christ again,
causing Him
disgrace, as if
His blood were
not enough to
hold them in the
first place.
If someone has
partaken of the
Holy Spirit,
their experience
and intellectual
understanding of
the Word of God
(logos) becomes
a personal, real
revelation of
the truth
(rema.) You
cannot partake
of the Spirit
unless the
Spirit resides
inside you,
therefore, it
follows that
Christians can
experience the
rema Word, and
still retain the
free choice to
turn their back
and walk away.
Since it is
‘impossible’ to
renew them if
they want to
come back, does
that mean they
lose their
salvation??
Let’s look at
one last example
in the Bible
which hints that
it may be
possible to do
just that. In
Revelation 3:
1-5, Jesus is
talking to the
church in
Sardis. He tells
John, “And unto
the angel of the
church in Sardis
write; These
things saith he
that hath the
seven Spirits of
God, and the
seven stars; I
know thy works,
that thou hast a
name that thou
livest, and art
dead. Be
watchful, and
strengthen the
things which
remain, that are
ready to die:
for I have not
found thy works
perfect before
God. Remember
therefore how
thou hast
received and
heard, and hold
fast and repent.
If therefore
thou shalt not
watch, I will
come on thee as
a thief, and
thou shalt not
know what hour I
will come upon
thee. Thou hast
a few names even
in Sardis which
have not defiled
their garments:
and they shall
walk with me in
white: for they
are worthy. He
that overcometh,
the same shall
be clothed in
white raiment;
and I will not
blot out his
name out of the
book of life,
but I will
confess his name
before my
Father, and
before his
angels.”
Jesus said they
were ‘dead’, or
(nekros:
spiritually
dead, given up
to sin,
inoperative.) He
instructed them
to ‘strengthen’
the things which
remain, or
(sterize:
stabilize, set
fast.) He had
not found their
works ‘perfect’
before God,
(pleroo:
fulfill,
accomplish,
bring to
realization.)
They were to
hold tight to
the little good
they did have to
their credit
that they were
about to lose,
and ‘repent’
(metanoeo:
change one’s
mind with
abhorrence of
one’s past
sins.)
There were just
a few people in
that church that
had not
‘defiled’
(moluno:
polluted with
sin) themselves,
and would walk
with Jesus
because they
were ‘worthy’
(axios: having
merit and
value.) Those in
that church that
‘overcometh’
(nikao: hold
fast their faith
in the face of
temptations and
persecutions)
would not have
their names
‘blot(ted)’
(machah: wipe
out, obliterate,
to strike) out
of the book of
life.
Revelation
20:15, “And
whosoever was
not found
written in the
book of life was
cast into the
lake of fire.”
Oh dear. Looking
at these
passages, we see
that Jesus
HIMSELF stated
that He knew
some of His
followers were
spiritually dead
and given up to
sin. They did
not accomplish
or fulfill their
works, therefore
He commanded
them to repent,
and abhor their
sins.
He saw other
followers who
had not polluted
themselves with
sin, and he
considered them
to have merit
and value. Those
followers who
held fast to
their faith,
regardless of
temptation or
persecution,
would not have
their names
wiped out of the
book of life and
would therefore,
not be cast into
the lake of
fire. Does that
summary jive
with what we saw
in the verses
above, in light
of their Greek
meanings?
Are Christians
capable of being
genuine
converts, with
the indwelling
of the Holy
Spirit, and
still choose to
practice a
sinful
lifestyle,
resulting in
their names
being wiped out
of the book of
life, causing
them to end up
in the lake of
fire? How can
someone’s name
be blotted out
of the book of
life if it was
never written
down in the
first place?
But what about
being ‘sealed’
by the Holy
Spirit when
we’re born
again? If you
think about it,
a seal is not
unbreakable. The
wax seals Kings
would put on
their letters
would be broken
once the
document was
opened.
The seal King
Darius used to
close the lion’s
den when Daniel
was thrown in,
was broken the
next morning
when the King
checked to see
if he survived
the night.
Likewise, the
seal on Jesus’
tomb was broken
when He was
resurrected. And
in Revelation 5,
Jesus breaks the
seals on the
scroll of
judgment that
begins the
tribulation.
To seal
something is to
authenticate its
legitimacy. It
isn’t meant to
bind something
permanently.
Therefore, once
someone is
sealed by the
Holy Spirit when
they are born
again, they are
verified as
authentically
belonging to
Christ. No one
can break that
seal except the
person
themselves, by
their own free
will. Or can
they…?
If it’s possible
to lose our
salvation, would
it result from
our choice of
lifestyle or
works, OR from
an attitude of
flagrant
disobedience and
ingratitude for
the free gift of
redemption?
There is no sin
that God will
not forgive,
other than
blaspheming the
Holy Spirit; the
Bible is clear
about that. But
how can those
who are saved
turn around and
give no thought
to having serial
affairs, or
cheating every
company they
work for? What
if they refuse
to marry instead
of merely living
with their
lover? What if
they pretty much
disregard the
Ten Commandments
and live however
their flesh
leads them?
‘Yeah, I know
and accept
Jesus’ payment
for my sins and
I can’t do
anything to earn
my way to
heaven. And I’m
grateful for
that. But while
I’m on this
earth, I’m gonna
have some fun
and do what I
want. Hey, I’m
saved, right?
I’ll just ignore
that pull in my
heart. Besides,
I don’t need
peace. I need
fun!’
There ARE
Christians out
there with this
attitude. Will
God give them
over to a
reprobate mind
because they
refuse to honor
Christ’s
sacrifice for
them? Will they
lose their
salvation?
I honestly don’t
know!
I’m simply
presenting both
arguments so YOU
can decide for
yourself, so
don’t be writing
to me, yapping
you think I’m
wrong. The lack
of an opinion
cannot be wrong.
The point of
this article is
this: We are in
the last of the
‘last days.’
This is NOT the
time to assume
anything! This
is NOT the time
to play Russian
roulette with
your eternal
destiny. This is
the time to
examine your
heart before
Almighty God.
Psalm 139:
23-24, “Search
me O God, and
know my heart:
try me, and know
my thoughts: and
see if there be
any wicked way
in me, and lead
me in the way
everlasting.”
Can people lose
their salvation?
I don’t know.
But if I were
you, I’d err on
the side of
caution because
we’re going home
very, very soon!
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